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« on: September 28, 2008, 03:45:30 am »

Hello, i have some questions regarding WinFlip.
I run an XP SP2 with a vista theme (don't get fooled by the theme, it's really XP), icon set and all and i was interested with the winflip. I really like the style of vista but vista sucks when it comes to requirements. when i run winflip, it's ok. the program runs, the tray icon appears but when i try to switch, two errors appear:


this one appears first. (see the vista theme at the window)


this image was cropped to load faster. it's MSpaint in the background for the screenshot.


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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 13:02:24 pm »

Welcome to the messageboard, fskreuz,



1. WinFlip does initialize Ok but when you try to flip you get the two error messages, correct ?

2. Can you flip alright with a standard Microsoft Visual Style?

3. Your screenshot does not look like you're running Styler, or are you ?  You may have to choose between WinFlip and Styler, especially that the styler toolbar cannot be drawn in flip mode.

Do you use Windowblinds ?

4. Does your video card support Hardware Acceleration (HAL, which is vital to WinFlip).

5. Try to launch WinFlip shortly after your system boots up, when enough RAM is available, try to flip and tell us the result. 

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 20:48:58 pm »

Hi fskreuz. I must ask you, did this error occured before in any other application than WinFlip? Haven´t you lately added a new memory module to your PC, or havenť you tried to overclock your memory. This bug is usually related to problem with memory so I would suggest test your RAM with MemTest or GoldMemory just to be sure. Try to play in WinFlip -> Options->other-> Use system memory instead of video memory.
And of course try what Roman suggested.

I think it is 1. memory problem 2. application conflict 3. something related to your graphic card (drivers etc.) or 4. problem with windows in general (especially when you get other errors or unexpected program crashes)
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 12:29:25 pm »

fskreuz,

Essentially the "memory cannot be read" message is saying that some other process has the memory at that location locked, thus making it unreadable for WinFlip.exe or WFHook.dll.

Possible causes of the error:

a). A bad memory module, as Leon has mentioned
b). A conflict with another running process


To closer determine the cause of the error, it is important that you try to launch WinFlip when other tools are not loaded in. For the testing purpose only, before you are running WinFlip, unload as many programs as you can think of, icluding the antivirus. Make sure you've got WinFlip from the official place (see the link below).
 
 
Share your experience, feel free to report if something does not work for you, or if the problem is gone,

thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 16:44:33 pm »

Ok, answers to all youir questions:

1. it's my first time to use this but a already have seen how it works. it's the quickest 3d flip program i've seen so i really appreciate it.

2. Yes, I use styler but it does not conflict in any way. i know a friend who let's me customize his PC and I use styler on his PC. Furthermore, he wanted the winflip. I made it run in his PC flawlessly.

3. I have 495mb ram. My friend only has 256 so it's not a memory problem. both our PCs are configured almost the same (because i fix his pc most of the time. i make it a clone of my pc so that any if error occurs to either one, we use the other as reference)

4. i don't use window blind coz it's a drag. it's just a vista theme i found.

5. i get these messages when i try to flip the windows, not upon executing the application. by the way, the application runs fine, it's just the flipping.

6. i don't have a video card in my pc neither does my friend but it really works on his PC.

7. my friend's pc is way more clogged up than mine, making mine the cleaner and faster one. (mine is like an office pc and his is a media PC). i run WinXP on an Asus  p4vp-mx cpu while he runs an HP pavillion)

i'll try the memtest as you say or the memory for video. if none works, i'll be sticking to the old alt tab. i envy my friends pc, it works in his pc. luck him.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2008, 12:47:53 pm »

Hi fskreuz did you manage to run WinFlip?
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6. i don't have a video card in my pc neither does my friend but it really works on his PC.
This is actually not possible, you need to have a graphic card of some kind. Either Ati/Nvidia, or Intel (maybe even S3).
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 22:07:01 pm »

Sorry bout that, what i mean is an add-on card. I have S3. My friend also has no add-on graphics card but only the built in one. Memtest did not solve my problems either, it returned "no errors found".

what could this problem be? is if it works on other PCs, then my PC has a defect. any help would do.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 18:36:56 pm »

Well it´s a wild guess by I think it could be because of your graphic card (since  I don´t know exactly the model). Now I think the Graphic Card has to be compatible with DirectX 9.0c (I stress the "think"). Maybe your graphic card is too old or use some non-standard implementations. I would try to download the newest drivers for your GC.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 07:56:45 am »

i have an S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR and DirectX 9.0c
and i have already updated my driver for the display yet still it shows.
it seems hopeless, it won't work anymore
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 10:47:38 am »

Hi fskreuz,

S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR is likely incompattible with WinFlip.

However :
 
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3. I have 495mb ram. My friend only has 256 so it's not a memory problem. both our PCs are configured almost the same (because i fix his pc most of the time. i make it a clone of my pc so that any if error occurs to either one, we use the other as reference)

if your friend has just the same S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR with WinFlip working Ok, it could be driver disfunction.

e.g.

I had a system installed some time ago, HL2 worked just fine. Then I updated my GF driver but installed it over the old one. All was fine but now HL2 generated an error everytime I launched it. I even started to think it was HL2 problem. Until I reinstalled the system. So, WinFlip is not the only "capricious" software. Updating video driver is optional and should be done properly as advised by the manufacturer, with uninstalling the previous version.


Probably the best thing to do is to try WinFlip later on a freshly installed system.
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